[SynchroBlog] SynchroBlog Digest, Vol 236, Issue 2

Phil Wyman pastorphil at salemgathering.com
Tue Oct 21 16:41:35 BST 2008 

No offense, just dialogue, and I wasn't jumping on you either David.

Hwyl,
Phil

On Oct 21, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Sonja Andrews wrote:

> Hi Phil ...
>
> Please accept my apologies ... I didn't even see David's comment as  
> I've been swamped lately and deleted alot of stuff.
>
> I might have said the same to him.  I'm frankly tired of the  
> attitude of everyone at all levels in our country that when they  
> don't like what's going on in any given situation, they pick up  
> their marbles and leave.  Start a new church, or a new family, or a  
> new ... denomination, or a new ... whatever.  If you don't like  
> people, start fresh somewhere else.  Don't like your state?  Secede  
> and join the next one.  Don't like the conversation?  Walk away.   
> Can't get everyone to agree with you?  Then they're all nuts.  Find  
> other friends; who agree with you.  Then you can be King of the  
> Hill.  ("you" is used in the metaphorical sense here).
>
> What we all need to realize is that near and far, people are  
> people.  Our problems will exist no matter where we are.  They walk  
> along behind us like a shadow ... sometimes they jump in front,  
> depending on the position of the sun.  Walking away just delays the  
> inevitable.  Stomping on our own shadow.
>
> Once again ... my apologies, I did not intend to offend or  
> alienate.  I was surprised by your comment and should have taken  
> more time with my own.  Mea culpa!
>
> pax, Sonja
>
> On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Phil Wyman wrote:
>
>> Wow - my silly comment, which was a response to David's comment  
>> has made a point.
>>
>> No one responded when David said he would leave if McCain won, but  
>> now people respond when I say I will leave if Obama wins.  I may  
>> have to blog about the unhealthy and growing anti-Republican bias  
>> in Christianity.  I can't help but wonder if the polarization of  
>> our politics is far more deadly than even (what we perceive to be)  
>> the worst of candidates.  Is staying and praying effectively any  
>> different than leaving?  Both are evidence of the polarization our  
>> nation is captured in.  The fact is that George is not our  
>> problem, and Obama or McCain are not our solutions.  Maybe Ben  
>> Stein is though - just kidding.
>>
>> Wanting to be involved in meaningful politics somewhere, and not  
>> finding it at home,
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Sonja Andrews wrote:
>>
>>> Oh ... now Phil ... none of us left the country when W won.  Many  
>>> of us stayed and prayed for him.
>>>
>>> Just a thought ...
>>>
>>> pax, Sonja
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Phil Wyman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> Are you up for pulling the list together as well?  I will not be  
>>>> able to put the time into it since October is upon me, and the  
>>>> 4th is too close to end of Halloween in Salem.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and I will be out of the country if Obama wins.  ;-)  The  
>>>> Isle of Man sounds nice and remote.  But Cymru would give me  
>>>> something real to politic about.
>>>>
>>>> Voting for Ben Stein methinks.
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jonathon Brink wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.  I’d love to see how many people we can get in on this  
>>>>> one.  Please feel free to invite your friends.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/20/08 1:39 PM, "Julie Clawson" <julieclawson at gmail.com>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in on leadership.  Is the post date Nov 4?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:00 AM,  <synchroblog- 
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>>>>>>>    1. Re: Topic for this month? (Bethany Stedman)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:22:11 +0200
>>>>>>> From: "Bethany Stedman" <beth.stedman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Topic for this month?
>>>>>>> To: kathy at therefugeonline.org,  "Mailing list for the  
>>>>>>> SynchroBloggers"
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leadership sounds like a great topic. I'm in too.
>>>>>>> Rejoicing in the journey -
>>>>>>> Bethany
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:44 AM, kathy escobar  
>>>>>>> <kathy at therefugeonline.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >  sounds great, i'm in. looking forward to it, kathy
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > *From:* synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org [mailto:
>>>>>>> > synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org] *On Behalf Of *Jonathon  
>>>>>>> Brink
>>>>>>> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:48 PM
>>>>>>> > *To:* Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
>>>>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [SynchroBlog] Topic for this month?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > That's what I was hoping for.  The concept of leadership is  
>>>>>>> broad and can
>>>>>>> > be in any different vein, but Nov 4th will have everyone  
>>>>>>> thinking about it.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Jonathan
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 10/19/08 7:29 PM, "Adam Gonnerman"  
>>>>>>> <igneousquill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > If it is just "leadership" that's great, because it could  
>>>>>>> go in a lot of
>>>>>>> > different directions (political, in the family, in church,  
>>>>>>> etc etc etc).
>>>>>>> >  I'm "in."
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Adam G.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Sonja Andrews  
>>>>>>> <sonja at paxunum.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I love this idea ... maybe focus on the notions that form  
>>>>>>> the basis of
>>>>>>> > transformational leadership?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > pax, Sonja
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Oct 19, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Jonathon Brink  
>>>>>>> <jb at thriven.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > How about a Synchroblog on leadership that comes out Nov  
>>>>>>> 4th?  It wouldn't
>>>>>>> > have to be about the Presidency but instead about what we  
>>>>>>> are asking for
>>>>>>> > from our leaders.  Something like that.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 10/19/08 11:46 AM, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw at telkomsa.net>  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Are we having a Christian synchroblog this month?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Topic?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Much Love
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Jonathan
>>>>>>> > Thrive Ministries: http://www.thriven.org/
>>>>>>> > 916.952.0934
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Missio Dei Blog: http://jonathanbrink.com/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>> Much Love
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> Thrive Ministries: http://www.thriven.org/
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