[SynchroBlog] SynchroBlog Digest, Vol 236, Issue 2

Sonja Andrews sonja at paxunum.org
Tue Oct 21 16:27:38 BST 2008 

Hi Phil ...

Please accept my apologies ... I didn't even see David's comment as  
I've been swamped lately and deleted alot of stuff.

I might have said the same to him.  I'm frankly tired of the attitude  
of everyone at all levels in our country that when they don't like  
what's going on in any given situation, they pick up their marbles and  
leave.  Start a new church, or a new family, or a new ...  
denomination, or a new ... whatever.  If you don't like people, start  
fresh somewhere else.  Don't like your state?  Secede and join the  
next one.  Don't like the conversation?  Walk away.  Can't get  
everyone to agree with you?  Then they're all nuts.  Find other  
friends; who agree with you.  Then you can be King of the Hill.   
("you" is used in the metaphorical sense here).

What we all need to realize is that near and far, people are people.   
Our problems will exist no matter where we are.  They walk along  
behind us like a shadow ... sometimes they jump in front, depending on  
the position of the sun.  Walking away just delays the inevitable.   
Stomping on our own shadow.

Once again ... my apologies, I did not intend to offend or alienate.   
I was surprised by your comment and should have taken more time with  
my own.  Mea culpa!

pax, Sonja

On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Phil Wyman wrote:

> Wow - my silly comment, which was a response to David's comment has  
> made a point.
>
> No one responded when David said he would leave if McCain won, but  
> now people respond when I say I will leave if Obama wins.  I may  
> have to blog about the unhealthy and growing anti-Republican bias in  
> Christianity.  I can't help but wonder if the polarization of our  
> politics is far more deadly than even (what we perceive to be) the  
> worst of candidates.  Is staying and praying effectively any  
> different than leaving?  Both are evidence of the polarization our  
> nation is captured in.  The fact is that George is not our problem,  
> and Obama or McCain are not our solutions.  Maybe Ben Stein is  
> though - just kidding.
>
> Wanting to be involved in meaningful politics somewhere, and not  
> finding it at home,
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Sonja Andrews wrote:
>
>> Oh ... now Phil ... none of us left the country when W won.  Many  
>> of us stayed and prayed for him.
>>
>> Just a thought ...
>>
>> pax, Sonja
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Phil Wyman wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> Are you up for pulling the list together as well?  I will not be  
>>> able to put the time into it since October is upon me, and the 4th  
>>> is too close to end of Halloween in Salem.
>>>
>>> Oh, and I will be out of the country if Obama wins.  ;-)  The Isle  
>>> of Man sounds nice and remote.  But Cymru would give me something  
>>> real to politic about.
>>>
>>> Voting for Ben Stein methinks.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jonathon Brink wrote:
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  I’d love to see how many people we can get in on this one.   
>>>> Please feel free to invite your friends.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/08 1:39 PM, "Julie Clawson" <julieclawson at gmail.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in on leadership.  Is the post date Nov 4?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:00 AM,  <synchroblog-request at p2ptrust.org 
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>>>>>>    1. Re: Topic for this month? (Bethany Stedman)
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:22:11 +0200
>>>>>> From: "Bethany Stedman" <beth.stedman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Topic for this month?
>>>>>> To: kathy at therefugeonline.org,  "Mailing list for the  
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leadership sounds like a great topic. I'm in too.
>>>>>> Rejoicing in the journey -
>>>>>> Bethany
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:44 AM, kathy escobar <kathy at therefugeonline.org 
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >  sounds great, i'm in. looking forward to it, kathy
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > *From:* synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org [mailto:
>>>>>> > synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org] *On Behalf Of *Jonathon Brink
>>>>>> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:48 PM
>>>>>> > *To:* Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
>>>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [SynchroBlog] Topic for this month?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That's what I was hoping for.  The concept of leadership is  
>>>>>> broad and can
>>>>>> > be in any different vein, but Nov 4th will have everyone  
>>>>>> thinking about it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jonathan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 10/19/08 7:29 PM, "Adam Gonnerman"  
>>>>>> <igneousquill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If it is just "leadership" that's great, because it could go  
>>>>>> in a lot of
>>>>>> > different directions (political, in the family, in church,  
>>>>>> etc etc etc).
>>>>>> >  I'm "in."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Adam G.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Sonja Andrews <sonja at paxunum.org 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I love this idea ... maybe focus on the notions that form the  
>>>>>> basis of
>>>>>> > transformational leadership?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > pax, Sonja
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Oct 19, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Jonathon Brink <jb at thriven.org>  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How about a Synchroblog on leadership that comes out Nov  
>>>>>> 4th?  It wouldn't
>>>>>> > have to be about the Presidency but instead about what we are  
>>>>>> asking for
>>>>>> > from our leaders.  Something like that.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 10/19/08 11:46 AM, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw at telkomsa.net>  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Are we having a Christian synchroblog this month?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Topic?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Much Love
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jonathan
>>>>>> > Thrive Ministries: http://www.thriven.org/
>>>>>> > 916.952.0934
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Much Love
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> Thrive Ministries: http://www.thriven.org/
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>>>>
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